Young Explorers Lombardi (GEL)
Our association, the GEL - Young Explorers Lombardi - was founded in 1995 by leaders with over 20 years of experience scautistica secular. The GEL has many members divided into four branches: the Castorini starting their adventure at the age of 5 years, the Cubs aged 8 to 12 years, the Scouts aged 12 to 16 years, the Rover 16 to 19 years and last (but not last!) the fourth branch, formed by adults, for the purpose of carrying scaustistiche activities for all ages.
The activities we directly draws inspiration from all the teachings of the founder, Baden Powell , in particular, it seeks direct contact with nature, beginning as a predominantly pedagogical practice. We practice many aspects of outdoor life, teaching our kids the main techiche of topography, the pioneer of Campismo without neglecting physical activity.
Association member to FEDERSCOUT
The main purpose of our association is still to be "good citizens of the world", highlighting the individual qualities to encourage responsible behavior from an early age. The GEL svolgele its activities at its scout camp in north-west of Milan, to the borders of three city parks, is the only group in Milan to have an area surrounded by greenery with plenty of space to live Life Scout.
for information
www.gelmilano.org
Paul
am July 13, 2008 @ 11:41
Seeing all scout associations that arise in the last year, I sincerely wonder what the reason for this proliferation. Especially taking into account the fact that many groups are every year in difficulties in finding all educators need to continue working.
What is this disunity?
Paul, Trieste
(Of a city where there are far too many associations)
Ivan Danchielli scoutmaster Vicenza (Big Bear White)
am July 23, 2008 @ 14:14
Dear Paul, Trieste, July 13, the cause of these divisions is simple: there are people who are tired of being absurd to service orders from headquarters. Some examples are worth a thousand words, some trade groups "more" has been ordered to cease operations because no male figures of "head", providing they are of female figures, were forbidden to attend the St. Mass in uniform penalty of expulsion given the "confessional" of the Association (not multi-faith), the appointment shall be determined by the "Central Committee" irrespective of the characteristics of the person operating in the branch offices; activities between boys and girls must maintain at least 3 miles; banned because non-educational field section, permits only fields of unity, although only 4-5 items, of course in the high mountains and with 1 count of only 19 years, with two years experience; phrases like " I am the Commissioner and the depositary of the Method "(4-5 years of experience compared with 45 of those present at the meeting ... and so on. I hope so much for you to understand the dynamics that worry you. Believe me, rather a pluralism that a Federal coercive and centralized method in which any kind of opinion is forbidden by a "intelligentsia" foolproof. I started to breathe joy scouts, after 45 years, only in the Federation. Finally, remember the words of BP challenged by his boss (! ) for its proposal "against" the Regulation "Damn the rules, call it an experiment" (to hell with the regulations, call it an experiment!). It makes you think.
PS: In three years from the establishment count 80 members (with 8 scout leaders) that could have belonged to the section CNGEI if only the "leaders" had been more farsighted and less defensive. Keyword: "open mind".
Safe journey.
Mark (Ingenious Fawn)
am July 26, 2008 @ 13:15
Sorry but ... I speak from head AGESCI, and read these comments I am very impress of how organizations operate "sisters" Italian. Beyond all, the thought was too heavy confessional in our society, but in front of certain things, I'd be back to teach the values of the boys scout with the freedom to express ALL values of law and the promise ... that, fortunately, I can in my association!
But the proliferation does not help ... ideas have to start scouting all by BP, makes no sense that there are 1000 different interpretations of the method ...
Ivan Danchielli scoutmaster Vicenza (Big Bear White)
am July 27, 2008 @ 21:17
Dear Mark, I agree with you and share your thoughts. In our Association that is not distorted, but the method is carried out continuous research of original sources from the thought of BP I think I know pretty well. I have spoken only of errors of CNGEI I come from and I know very well, nothing. The many local entities are not willing to give their own interpretation of each method, but only research and establish an independent management of their organizations, I repeat: MANAGING daily, far from abominable errors that I listed. In this we are very close to you and me. The method has nothing to do. Scouting original run, with us, no danger, indeed! A hug and a handshake. Safe journey. Big White Bear.
Dominic Pumpkin
am July 30, 2008 @ 14:37
The impression is that Scouting "secular" is in full decay. Desertions and defections are now something that can hardly be defined as unimportant.
In Trieste, Gela, Taranto, Vicenza, Massa Carrara, Manziana has left the common home to choose new paths.
In the past others have done it (scout Sardinians, GEL, Assoraider)
For an association that now has about 11,000 registered this can not be described as the result of "personalism" will of disunity or unconsciousness.
The problems may be substantial.
The management of an association as well as its structure are the daughters of the values that we embody.
The drift of secularist more secular Scout Association is visible for all to see.
In fact I was very struck by the change in the law of BP. replace God with the Cubs in a generic spirituality, very new age, in virtue of this comes the next step surely affect the change of the scout law and the role of head of unit, which can be, why not!, although not heterosexual.
The rest must be consistent with their ideas.
I hope that the historical and the ideal CNGEI multi-faith, open, secular, pluralist can To be an kept and preserved by those choosing to stay out of it wants to continue to live it and propose it.
Try to stay united, not disperdevi.
God knows what is needed today in Italy, a place of immigration and cultural changes of a secular Scouting, strong, well-structured and firm in his ideals accommodate students who can not even Italian, in complementarity (not opposition) to the confessional.
Germano Industrious
OldStoneGrizzly
am on August 7, 2008 @ 00:49
Well, in all honesty I do not see what's wrong in a scoutmaster is not straight ...
you will not have preconceptions?
And then, all this talk of "return to BP" to me is a bit 'funny. What was the purpose of BP in founding the Boy Scouts? Provide the citizens of the United Kingdom that would be useful to society, and active carriers of values consistent with it. Well, let us pause for a moment: how it should be, today, a good citizen? A religious fundamentalist, whatever religion it is, it would be a good scout and a good citizen? What society do we want for tomorrow? The values that were suited for the post-Victorian England are helpful today?
Asking this question is not blasphemous, I believe ...
Good Hunting
OldStoneGrizzly
Dominic Pumpkin
am on August 11 2008 @ 24:08
I have no bias, but I do not understand why Catholics go to Mass if CNGEI with uniform CNGEI are expelled by the association (so you are told by big white bear).
this is a mistake or misconception?!
(I hope that big white bear exaggerated)
German laborious
tarcisio
am on August 12 2008 @ 00:32
I'm still CNGEI, but are those leaders and educators who believe that finding it increasingly difficult for his stay in the association. Do not share the opinion of his friend big white bear, with whom I shared more than a decade of membership CNGEI Vicenza, no you is expelled when you attend a church service in uniform, but in my opinion the CNGEI is voluntarily or No turning in the association of non-believers, not to mention atheists. In my time at school leaders proponovena "a lull in activity" to allow participation in religious services, today is my last report that leaders warned that those who wish to attend the Mass must go to Mass as usual at 8 am before the activity starts. Unfortunately there is a huge shortage of leaders and either closes or changes the whole group (as Manziana, Massa, Triest (2), Taranto, etc.. Or is hoping ... The promise of new cubs originally was missing: the word of promise; our best, the "dry" if we are God-family-home, then entered with turns of phrase, by indication-obligation on the part of the WOSM, but there is always the expression "I promise to love ...." What's so little to love to take him out of secular Prom ... even now should I undertake to say. That's why after 24 years as head CNGEI hope in the opportunity to change the date without damaging the guys that leaders often are Mario Mario Rossi and Rossi .
Ivan Danchielli scoutmaster Vicenza (Big Bear White)
am on September 4th, 2008 @ 22:15
I was deputy department head at the jamboree in Japan in 1971 and at the World Conference on good Aldo Marzot presented his draft of the fourth branch of the "Raider" (post-rover scout young adults ..). He cried scandal in CNGEI Marzot and was forced to ground the ASSORAIDER. I could cite many other examples of intransigence of my association of origin, the latter of which is as follows: our office is attended by all groups of all associations, it is a beautiful site for scout activities, less than the CNGEI of our city ... we do not exist for them. Scouts and siblings caring for each other that we think young people over by families. The rest is barren controversy. An ideal universal embrace you all. Good hunting and good way.
tarcisio
am on September 8, 2008 @ 23:34
Dear Big Bear White reminds me of Ivan the Terrible, sweep away everything. It's not entirely true that all of your former section of which have been my first commissioner, I have forgotten .. we came to make the promises of the cubs from you and I have offered more than hospitality, your badges and a book of fairy tales published by you. You know that I agree with you on some other issues but, as in any association, diverge. Unfortunately, but fortunately for me also, sometimes it is better to separate the most serene and continue to a new location, rather than continue to pizzicarci home. And when I say better I mean for scouting as in this case, now there are 70 children who experience more joy scouts of the message. Perhaps this is more of a symbol.
Good Hunting - Road - Way
Marco Sabatini
am on September 17 2008 @ 05:39
About the proliferation of autonomous scout associations, at the present time I think you should appreciate that by adopting the philosophy of ancient China, "can be a disaster, can be a godsend." Of course, the abandonment of a road which appears no longer feasible to open the beaten track involves a serious failure, a period of mourning, get over it, take the initiative. It does not happen every day, not everyone, but it happens more and more stuff is frequente.Non people with weak stomachs or without internal structures.
The drift atheist, secularist more than that is taking CNGEI that began recently to become the association of non-believers is one of the reasons causing the defection of entire premises. I'm perfectly okay with Mimmo Pumpkin AGESCI reminding that, for other reasons, you are better off in terms of defections.
It must be said also that the search for self-associative structure is determined by some years by a bureaucratic behavior (as a "power to stamp") or worse conceited and arrogant of some associative levels, supported by a biased interpretation of the rules are too rigid (the law is for the man rather than vice versa). This happens-I think-because arrogantly tends to cultivate the ambitions of monopoly avvilendo Association for the Movement Organization. In this connection I remember the nice article in the journal of Don Romano Nicolini AGESCI "B.-P. would start to Brownsea? "Scout-PE No. 13 of June 6, 2007. We in San Casciano in Val di Pesa, Florence-for this reason we left AGESCI FederScout opting for a set-associative and autonomous and federated Scout Movement in BP saying:
"Our aim is to decentralize
management of the Movement
as much as possible, so
to avoid red tape
and to give the maximum
of democratic autonomy
to local structures.
We are not so much an organization
As a fraternity,
moved by the spirit and
the unwritten law of loyalty,
rather than by rules and
printed regulations. "
In the end, and I conclude, is to feel the spirit of the movement that is unique and we are all brothers, watching from a distance expressions
organization in the various forms of association.
To all of a fraternal way!
Marco Sabatini President-SCOUT GROUP PROMOTER
Stephen Montserrat 1 Ages
am on September 17 2008 @ 18:57
The analysis of Mark, I have personally met this year in Bisceglie, touches on an issue which surely, until a few years now, you never talked about much: the associations of demergers more "important", l ' Agesci, and lately also the CNGEI Assoraider.
Without going into the individual events, Mark says clearly what are the main reasons for these divisions and I'm not here to repeat them, I just say that I share it in full.
A constructive discussion of what leads sections, groups, individual animals but also to move away from the association of membership would help to understand WHERE you are wrong and would help to trace a path "shared" that one day bring all scouts in Italian a federation, respectful of what are the differences and peculiarities, the characteristics of each. You could take the example of Federscout: many associations, secular, Catholic, pluriconfessionali, different histories, different regions etc but all together they discuss, you compare, organize events and activities. I think this is called "scout brotherhood"! And it's a wonderful experience to live!
I am an idealist, but I dream of a common home for all the Italian scouts. And 'possible. But always without forgetting the teaching of BP: Scouting is a MOVEMENT. I think that has ever used this word at random, but with a precise meaning: the movement include, not exclude, is continuous and perpetual journey, it enhances and enriches every day!
Angel Benassi
am on October 21 2008 @ 17:54
The spirit Scout is one regardless of the symbol under which is exercised.
How "old scouts" I am sorry to hear speeches that have nothing to do with the brotherhood that should exist between each of us.
I unfortunately had bad experiences with locally AGESCI from which I come from, but nevertheless I am always ready to dialogue and cooperate whenever it is needed.
I hope that in future things may change, I am convinced that the force majeure of Scouting is also and above all the brotherhood born from diversity.
Happy Duck
am on November 10 2009 @ 03:46
Hello
MI Antonielli name is Paul and I am a Scout Group Scout Agesci Folignano1, I'm 46 discout son (my father nel1950circa Patent No. 1) in active service until a few years ago. I have only now found on the web but long ago I heard about you and now I have said, toh 'here's another Scout Association, dopoquella Trieste also Lombard, the association will get in a bit of Bergamo, then be the turn of Puglia followed by the Romans in the north and west of Florence.
I wonder. what sense does it create another Scout Association? The Agesci the CNGEI, the ESF there were good? I cite only their 3
because they are the biggest and 3 are also for me because too many of the same is true for other discorsoche do to you.
They also educate young people with the method invented by BP as a scout say to you. So why if you want to do educational service for children do not share their combination? What is so incompatible with vosrti your thoughts and ideologies? Forgive me but I see little humility and too thirsty to take center stage.
If BP was time we do not think it would be very excited about this division because he always preached the brotherhood of sout around the world and now we are split up into many associations mah! There are enough divisions within the church, now we bring you even scout.Scusatemi of this letter may be a little nasty but it was a thought that I carried inside for a while. IN waiting for your answer vu perhaps a fruitful road work comunque.Buona
In your Scouting Duck's happy.
Robert Stanzione
am on November 10 2009 @ 17:32
Comment:
I read carefully what the guys are describing, noting, observing and commenting and I congratulate you because I notice in all the desire to meet and compete on ideas and beliefs reached matured. Scouting is an environment where you can mirror, compare and express freely and is perhaps the only good thing that we can now consider conquered between us. For the rest it is my sad conviction that everything in sight and surf aimlessly. I do not know but I guess maybe I'm the most veteran of all writers. Living, sailing, of almost eighty scout since 1945. Scouts from ASCI, by rover CNGEI, then SM ALT Commissioner, co-founder of four groups throughout my life. Three Jamboree, now in dispute CNGEI out. They are known by some ignored by others, perhaps by someone tolerated if not challenged. I wrote about my adventures in 150 stories, many from scouts in Italy and in oltri twelve countries where I have done the job of a lifetime. One of my personal account on the raw Scouting: Useful, educational, but easy to manipulate and mislead those who follow him to the hypocritical way in current use. Guy is one thing the instructor, the other is the educator. We are moving a lot of mediocre instructors, very few educators. So the scout movement defined by its autonomasia educational movement is not what you do. Laudable attempts are, of course poor results. Unfortunately, groups often host pressapochisti, immature, arrogant, exhibitionists, blurring the fundamental values that hang out the method, making it only the object of their personal tabernacle to hide their civil and moral bankruptcy.
If you want time and follow the blog every so often: the Pelican Succiso my newly opened door did just to give out my feelings and my experience in over fifty years of Scouting Scouts practiced first in the associations later in life and in Working in contact with people of different ethnicities, culture, beliefs, different religions. I was fortunate to be able to measure, to receive and give something a lot of Italian, Christian, Civil, enthusiastic.
Safe journey and SUSP White Feather
Tarcisio
am on February 27 2012 @ 01:13
I would, for the spirit of knowledge, if you can get a clarification from GEL: in some parts I read that the gel consists of several groups in london but I see your site listed only one based in Milan. There are other groups? Thanks and Happy journey